{"id":221,"date":"2024-12-31T12:43:07","date_gmt":"2024-12-31T12:43:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wpinitiate.com\/echo-test\/demo973e36f5\/2024\/12\/31\/opinion-for-the-new-year-parsing-different-strains-of-trump-voters-the-capital-times\/"},"modified":"2024-12-31T12:43:07","modified_gmt":"2024-12-31T12:43:07","slug":"opinion-for-the-new-year-parsing-different-strains-of-trump-voters-the-capital-times","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wpinitiate.com\/echo-test\/demo973e36f5\/2024\/12\/31\/opinion-for-the-new-year-parsing-different-strains-of-trump-voters-the-capital-times\/","title":{"rendered":"Opinion | For the new year, parsing different strains of Trump voters &#8211; The Capital Times"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"article-body\" itemprop=\"articleBody\" false>                                  <meta itemprop=\"isAccessibleForFree\" content=\"true\">                                                                                                      <\/p>\n<p>With the new year, shock and indignation that the nation could elect Donald Trump \u2014 the cause of the Jan. 6 insurrection \u2014 for a second time probably has morphed for many into more nuanced emotions.<\/p>\n<p>In late November, <a href=\"https:\/\/captimes.com\/opinion\/paul-fanlund\/opinion-as-the-post-trump-election-hangover-lingers-six-thoughts\/article_9526d6f4-a929-11ef-982b-17c6fd1c7fe9.html\" target=\"_blank\">my column<\/a> leaned into several takeaways, including my decision to avoid left-leaning podcasts and YouTube segments as well as MSNBC and talking heads generally. Reports about ratings suggest I had lots of company.<\/p>\n<p>That said, I have resumed dutifully reading the New York Times and Washington Post out of professional obligation and civic responsibility. We cannot pretend away the daily clown show of abhorrent appointees and reckless pronouncements.<\/p>\n<p>In that same column and at full rant, I pledged to sever contacts with the type of Trump voter I encounter most \u2014 affluent men and women who covet low taxes and to hell with everyone and everything else.<\/p>\n<p>More recently, my take-my-ball-and-go-home instincts toward Trump voters collided with the message from Ben Wikler, Wisconsin\u2019s Democratic Party chair.<\/p>\n<p>Wikler was telling me in <a href=\"https:\/\/captimes.com\/opinion\/paul-fanlund\/opinion-why-ben-wikler-runs-into-the-biggest-fire-i-can-find\/article_412a80c0-be3a-11ef-b1f2-cf4c7a40480c.html\" target=\"_blank\">an interview<\/a>, as he has told comedian Jon Stewart and many others in his campaign to lead the Democratic National Committee, that we need to understand things through the eyes of lower-income, low-or-no information voters who supported Trump.<\/p>\n<p>To make his case, Wikler sets $50,000 in annual income as the cutoff. People making less may have been getting some form of financial help during the pandemic. Then it ended just as inflation spiked grocery and gasoline prices. Many of them decided to vote for change, any change, not for Trump\u2019s vision. We need to understand and learn from that, Wikler argues.<\/p>\n<p>Thinking about that, and generally about the psychology surrounding defeat, I spoke with an expert, Paula Niedenthal, a psychology professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. An expert on human emotions, Niedenthal called my notion of cutting off personal contact with Trump voters a losing idea.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s the wrong direction to go for many, many reasons,\u201d she said. \u201cI would encourage people not to do that. Just avoiding people or saying I\u2019m going to end the relationship, I would argue is a bad idea.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That said, she added, \u201cTalking about something people don\u2019t want to talk about is also often a bad idea. So, if it works for people to maintain relationships but avoid the topic of politics, I think that\u2019s a great idea if that\u2019s how that works for them. Because there are probably 2,000 other domains that they can talk about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She suggested that people who supported Vice President Kamala Harris question their approach in interacting with Trump backers: \u201cWhat are my motives in engaging them? Am I trying to change their mind? Am I trying to show them that they\u2019re stupider than I am?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have to be curious about the other person. If they\u2019re angry, ask them why they\u2019re angry. Or if they have a perspective on what\u2019s important to them, ask them about that, but don\u2019t pretend one knows better what is good for them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She also said that it is important that people \u2014 I think she means highly educated progressives clustered in places like Madison \u2014 not to assume we have the answers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPeople can\u2019t be told what their interests are,\u201d she said. \u201cWe need to hear from them what they regard as their most pressing interests, then engage in that rather than telling them \u2026 how they are voting against their own best interests.\u201d<\/p>\n<div>\n<figure><span data-toggle=\"modal\" data-photo-target=\".photo-5bbf68b2-c54f-11ef-a355-976038081a4f\" data-instance=\"#gallery-items-042335da-c4a4-11ef-8a3e-fb256ebefb86-photo-modal\" data-target=\"#photo-carousel-042335da-c4a4-11ef-8a3e-fb256ebefb86\">                 <span><\/span>             <\/span>             <\/p>\n<div itemprop=\"image\" itemscope 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Niedenthal says telling Donald Trump voters there is 50 years of research proving that Reaganomics does not help the middle class is unlikely to be persuasive.<\/p>\n<p>                                 <\/span>                                                                                                                    <span>                                     <span itemprop=\"author\">UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN-MADISON<\/span>                                 <\/span>                                                                               <span><\/span>                     <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<p>She added, \u201cTrying to get them more money for some reason may or may not be what their biggest interest is,\u201d Niedenthal said.<\/p>\n<p>Niedenthal referenced Maslow\u2019s hierarchy of needs, a psychological theory that outlines human needs in descending order, starting at the top with basic ones like food and water, then safety and security, love and belonging, esteem, and so forth.<\/p>\n<p>Uppermost needs must be met before others come into play. \u201cIf you even think of it in those terms, maybe they need to feel safe first before they can worry about whether trickle-down economics doesn\u2019t work,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>Niedenthal said telling Trump voters there is 50 years of research proving that Reaganomics does not help the middle class is unlikely to persuade. She added, \u201cI think people have to listen to the actual concerns of other people and not tell them what to be most concerned about.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Niedenthal also emphasized that her research and other research suggests those on the political extremes on both sides are comparatively few.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s like one-tenth of one percent of people who are making a lot of noise,\u201d she said. Niedenthal said she is less interested in those who are \u201cnoisy on the fringes, or who are trying to take all the air out of the room.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI do think that starting with a sense of modesty and understanding that the differences are trivial compared to the similarities is a good way to approach people,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cObviously, the more ideological social scientists will pull on the data \u2026 convenient to them, but I think a more unbiased view is that there are more similarities than differences.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>My principal takeaway from all of this is to, at minimum, try to resist painting Trump voters with a single brush.<\/p>\n<p>As the inauguration looms, here\u2019s my plan:<\/p>\n<p>My enmity will endure for country-club Republicans who know but don\u2019t care that climate change, racial and social injustice are all real, who know there is enormous middle-class suffering from decades of deindustrialization. It is, after all, about their own net worth.<\/p>\n<p>My even greater disdain will continue for extremist yahoos who gloat about Trump keeping women and people of color \u201cin their place\u201d and, as they love to boast, \u201cowning the libs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But for what is probably the largest segment of Trump voters, the approaches urged by Wikler and Niedenthal are convincing. Better political outcomes in the future will require a better understanding of the perspectives of the non-combatants.<\/p>\n<p>Even if they voted for Trump. Especially if they voted for Trump.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With the new year, shock and indignation that the nation could elect Donald Trump \u2014 the cause of the Jan. 6 insurrection \u2014 for a second time probably has morphed for many into more nuanced emotions. 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